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Shot Put and Discus Fall/Winter Training: What You Should Be Doing Now

One of the key things Arete Throws Nation focuses on when an athlete is going to focus exclusively on being a shot-putter, or a discus-thrower, is to understand what you’re supposed to do at what time of year.

 

If you throw, throw, throw and constantly throw, there’s clearly a lot of benefit to that, but there’s also going to be a key time when you need to focus on breaking down technique.

 

During the summer months- post season- we have our throwers working on drills for the various parts of the throw…

… We’re looking at left and right leg axis, separation, power position, the left arm and left leg block, and delivery of the shot put and discus.

 

As we start fall, we begin taking the drills into the ring two days a week. We work on a lot of stand throw mechanics (power position, right leg axis and block) concentrating on the right leg axis, and timing of the block.

 

We do our modified wheel drill to work the right left axis and 45-degree angle to work rotation of the power position.

 If you throw the discus, or the shot, we’re always looking at perfecting Pillar 1 (the wind-up)….

 

… to address balance in the back of the ring, (balance left to right) and balance in the middle of the throw (balance front to back).

 

Whether you’re an in-coming freshmen, or an elite thrower, you should be spending this time learning the throw and breaking down the technique….

 

… This is the time to really think over positions, and work on the things that need to be improved before the next season arrives.

So what am I saying?

 

You gotta work the parts of the throw, and its also the time to work on strength and size development, getting bigger, getting stronger, fixing weaknesses, eating right and learning to recover and how all that ties together.

 

(NOTE* weight training should be focused on making you a better thrower, not just better in the weight room. Think about that.  This is an important point and we will discus this in another article).

 

Even though weight training is a big part of your training, avoid over training, so that:

  1. You’re not getting burned out, and
  2. You’re enjoying the process and having fun.

 

It’s building a sense of anticipation for the next year.

 

Ultimately, throwers have to have a strong understanding of the science of the throw and that’s where the Throwing Chain Reaction ™ system comes in as an important tool for any throws program looking for real results- fast!

 

We work on everything from front of the ring to the back of the ring.

Around this time of year, coaches will ask me, “What percentage of your training focuses on the throwing?”

Since its fall, we are spending two days actually throwing and always focusing on technique, making proper adjustments….

 

… we will be in the weight room 3 days a week, where I have a strength program designed exclusively for throwers. (I offer this information in a online course available now- click here for more info)

… Then we’ll have a week where they’ll throw a few extra times.

 

At Arete Throws Nation, in Southern California and in Phoenix Az, we will have throws camps every month from August to January.

This is a great way learn the TCR™ system to athletes who haven’t been part of our online system, or who live outside the area… and many times out of the state!

 

The ATN camps are a great way to launch your throws season in the right direction…

… I also welcome throws coaches to all the ATN camps, so you can see first hand how to apply the TCR™ system and how effective and quickly a thrower responses to this system of throws coaching.

 

It’s also an opportunity for our throwers that are already in our training program to review and reinforce the fundamentals.

We typically conclude each camp with some level of throwing.

 

If you’re in Southern California or Phoenix Az, I encourage you to come to our monthly camps. We keep it to a small number on purpose so every athlete gets a lot of coaching and really gets a crash course in the parts of the throw.

 

 

Drills are the key! That’s your lifeblood.

 It’s the best way to get a lot of repetition in a short amount of time.

 

I’ve had athletes at the high school level spend 45 minutes to an hour, getting 150 repetitions in. That’s throwing over and over and over. It is the fastest way to break bad habits.

If you’re a young thrower the best thing you can do is develop good habits from the start.

You understand the drill, pay attention. The drills are definitely a part of your throwing, whether you’re a 12-year-old youth thrower or elite thrower, cuz the pros are working drills right now too.

 

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Discus Killer and Simple Concepts

This week I have schedule in the books a big project to share a lot of tips and insights. The inspiration came from what I saw this weekend at my Discus camp in So Cal…  and during virtually every throws camp I do.

Today, I will touch on a few topics, and dig in more as we approach the Thanksgiving Holiday.

This past Saturday, Arete Throws Nation completed its 3rd Preseason Throws camp: Discus… All Day!

We divided the groups by modest marks- above 130ft =  group 1 and 110ft or below= group 2.

Camps are a microcosm of the state of throwing and the efficiency of throws coaching that throwers are receiving.

It is categorized a little like this…

  1. A couple of solid coaches, decent skill levels.
  2. Multiple Coaches, with little correct throws coaching info.
  3. No coaching/No Coach.
  4. and sadly… Bad Coaching…. REALLY BAD!!!!

Bad throws coaching is typically the result of using incorrect concepts about the throw, having limited information on how to teach technique, and/or going all in with developing a program using incorrect info… (many times it’s just a lack of experience and a solid understanding of the Science of the Throw).

A poorly executed throws program really does damage to a thrower’s development, and sadly it happens all the time… but we’ll talk about that later on.

At our throws camps, we, of course, teach the TCR™ system (Throwing Chain Reaction™) to clarify the concept of the throw. We will drill the 6 Pillars in the 1st half and throw in the afternoon using the Pillar Connection phases. (I’ve included a quick Excerpt from our camp talking about this and the process)

—– to attend an ATN camp in Dec, Click Here

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I’ll spend 45 minutes on pillar 1 and explain “how” (rather than simply show) a progression should look, feel, and be coached.

We spend the time to drive home the importance of Pillar 1- Setting Up the Trigger Action…

which is how to set separation and the sprint leg axis.

We then spend a bunch of time drilling pillar 2: Setting up Maximum Power.

Pillars 1-2 & 6 are the most complete pillars.

In pillar 2, we start with the CM shift Drills-  keeping the Knees apart to maintain the separations that is set in pillar 1. This teaches the throwers the critical position of setting up Maximum Power.

Each year I am always surprised by how something simple is difficult to do and learn.

After about 45 minutes on how to properly set separation, I said to the campers, “This is what you have to do correctly if you want to throw far fast

 

… And it’s true!  It’s how we routinely see athletes improve 25+ feet in the discus and over 6-8 feet in the shot.  It’s also how they will be throwing farther in just a few weeks if they really work on Pillar 1 & 2.

If you get Pillar 1 and 2 close, the throw is MUCH better because the TCR™ system is much better.  Seriously, you can mess up pillars 3-6 and still manage decent throw, but if P1 & P2 are wrong… its OVER!….

… The throw is toast!

The point is,  both coaches and throwers need to understand that you need to spend the time to set the foundation.

In fact, most programs shouldn’t even begin throwing for at least 2 weeks.

They should do drills, like machines every day for 2 weeks, and started developing throwing strength.

I guarantee,  you will have the best season ever if you focus on learning and doing the right things first;  spend the time to master Pillar 1 & 2 during the first 4 weeks with a thrower.. ..

…Its makes a huge difference!

I also talked about how to simplify the throw.

You’re familiar with the expression “Don’t’ put the cart before the horse”….. well in throwing, “Don’t put the throw before the technique”.

Trust me, it happens all the time!

I strive to really make it clear how the Throwing Chain Reaction™ works. Its real. It powerful.

At each camp I see recurring mistakes….

… and at this camp last weekend, it was no different.

For new Throwers, one of the biggest mistakes in the discus is bringing the discus forward in the throw as they go through the throw, meaning the arm can’t stay back as they move from Pillar 1 to Pillar 3 .

There is a simple reason.

The don’t hold the discus properly.

They are grabbing and gripping the disc, and therefore, they are almost entirely focused on NOT dropping the Discus.

This crushes the throw because the feedback mechanism is totally jacked up…

… They must learn to hold the discus, and how to carry it properly in the throw.

From newbie to more advanced throwers, this is a more common issue than people realize!

Throwers that don’t hold the discus properly will do all drills and training incorrectly because they can sense the discus is going to come out, so they make all kinds of technical compensations, and as a result, and they will never really feel the timing of the hips and the timing of how the arm is supposed to feel.

This is the Pillar Killer, again because the Feedback Mechanism is crushed… which will be discussed later this week.

This issue prohibits the TCR™ system from flowing properly because Pillar 1 will be incorrect,breaking the “chain reaction”… get it?

…   holding the implement (in all throws) must be done correctly and first.

If you see the unwind, look at how kids carry the discus.

This is the juicy stuff a lot of people don’t talk about and it makes a major difference because once throwers establish the wrong pattern, it’s a total pain to arse to correct it.

And the this carry issue is more prevalent than most people realize!

Stay tuned for tomorrows email, where I go into more tips and revelations from last week’s Discus Camp.

-Coach Johnson

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Quik Tip Friday: Concepts for More Effective Throwing Drills

This past week we rolled our Drill Rx sheet to my Arizona Throwers.

My throwers loved it.

Why? …

Everybody loves structure. They crave organization.

Even unorganized people like things organized; They just aren’t good at it.

And here’s the point…

Drills need to be done in an organized manner, executed in an efficiently, and performed in a way that improves the thrower.

I often talk about the need for 5-6 drills (that’s usually during the season.)

The part of the throw that’s weak is the part that needs to be addressed…

And then the drill has to be taught and done correctly.

Over the past few weeks I have had 3 new throwers start our local programs. All with little or no coaching: 2 seniors, and 1 sophomore.

They have bad habits, and their concepts of the movement is incorrect.

If the concepts are incorrect, the training is automatically incorrect as well.

So step #1 is to get the drills executed correctly.  This is to help the athlete gain a clearer concept of each pillar in the Throw.

Step #2, decide how will strength (or lack of) further affect drilling and throwing?

The sophomore has few bad habits, and serious strength imbalances.

…. therefore the drilling has begun!

There is a reality when coaching….

… when you watch my videos, you will see that I instruct the athlete on how the drill is supposed to be done and then the athlete does what they “think” I told them.

Inevitably, a new Arete athlete won’t do it correctly because they have an unclear concept of what I am coaching, but that is why they are here.

This is a big part that coaches and throwers need to realize.

You must coach Drills Correctly….Period.

 At any given practice, you will hear me say…

Correct it and correct it and correct it. 

I would say it takes a good 75-100 reps before most throwers with bad habits will begin to clarify the concepts of the drill and start moving correctly.

So here’s Your Quick Tip Friday:

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Make Sure your concept of the throw is correct. Drills are the key to success.

However if your concepts of the Drill is incorrect….

You’ll spend A LOT of time doing movement that’s not gonna help you improve fast.

Every year I get kids with bad habits, and every year I crush them with at least 1000+ reps in the first 2 weeks, but the real secret is that during that time I’m re-programming their concept of the throw.

That’s the detail that gets missed.

Whether you’re a coach or thrower…Be a student of the sport… Get your concepts clear… Throw Far,

– Coach Johnson.